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04/07/2018 10:00 AM Senate JUDICIARY

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10:00:41 AM Start
10:01:02 AM SJR1
10:30:43 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Uniform Rule 23 Waived --
+ SJR 1 CONST AM: GUARANTEE PERM FUND DIVIDEND TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ SB 127 CRIMINAL LAW;PAROLE;PROBATION;SENTENCING TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
+ HB 214 BREE'S LAW; DATING VIOLENCE PROGRAMS TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
         SJR  1-CONST AM: GUARANTEE PERM FUND DIVIDEND                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:02:09 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR COGHILL announced the consideration of SJR 1.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:02:18 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  BILL  WIELECHOWSKI,  Alaska State  Legislature,  Juneau,                                                               
Alaska,  sponsor of  SJR  1, stated  that  this resolution  would                                                               
allow the  people of Alaska  to vote  on whether to  enshrine the                                                               
current   calculation  and   inflation-proofing  of   the  Alaska                                                               
Permanent Fund  Dividend (PFD) in  the Constitution of  the State                                                               
of Alaska. That is the only way to truly protect the dividend.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He related that many Alaskans  were shocked when the governor cut                                                               
the  permanent fund  dividend by  over $1,000  in 2016.  Then the                                                               
legislature cut  it again  last year.  When this  was challenged,                                                               
the Alaska Supreme  Court held that the  governor and legislature                                                               
could adjust  the dividend  as they wished.  This means  there is                                                               
absolutely no  protection for the permanent  fund dividend unless                                                               
it is put in the constitution. That is what SJR 1 does.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
He  said  it's  important  to  remember  that  the  PFD  reflects                                                               
Alaskans  ownership share in the  state's oil wealth. The current                                                               
value of  the Alaska  Permanent Fund is  roughly $60  billion and                                                               
Art. IV, Sec. 15 of the  Alaska Constitution   the Permanent Fund                                                               
constitutional amendment    requires that at least  25 percent of                                                               
mineral lease rentals, royalties,  royalty sale proceeds, federal                                                               
mining  revenue-sharing payments,  and  bonuses  received by  the                                                               
state go  into the permanent  fund. He  noted there is  a statute                                                               
that says that  50 percent of royalties for  certain fields after                                                               
a  certain  year  go  into  the  permanent  fund,  but  it  is  a                                                               
relatively small amount.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  refuted  the  claim that  the  PFD  is  an                                                               
entitlement. He pointed out that  the subsurface rights in Alaska                                                               
belong  to   the  people  collectively   and  that  there   is  a                                                               
constitutional obligation under Art. VIII,  Sec. 2 to ensure that                                                               
these  resources are  utilized "for  the maximum  benefit of  the                                                               
people." He said the authors  of the 1982 Permanent Fund Dividend                                                               
legislation  understood this  very clearly  and tied  the current                                                               
PFD  to  this  constitutional obligation.  They  understood  that                                                               
every Alaskan  had a right to  their share of the  oil wealth and                                                               
the best,  most efficient way to  do that was through  a dividend                                                               
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He posited  that in the scheme  of things Alaskans have  gotten a                                                               
very  small share  of the  oil wealth.  He pointed  out that  100                                                               
percent  of state  property taxes,  corporate  income taxes,  and                                                               
production taxes  go to state  government, as well as  75 percent                                                               
of all royalties. The royalty  rate is typically 12.5 percent and                                                               
the people get  just a 25 percent share of  that. This means just                                                               
3.125 percent of the value of  Alaska's oil goes to the permanent                                                               
fund.  Alaskans only  get 50  percent of  the earnings  generated                                                               
from those  contributions. The rest  is available  for government                                                               
and remains available to government under SJR 1.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
He shared several points to illustrate  the impact the PFD has on                                                               
individuals, businesses and the  economy. The Institute of Social                                                               
and Economic Research (ISER) at  UAA found that tens of thousands                                                               
of Alaskans are  removed from poverty because of  the PFD. Alaska                                                               
has the  lowest income  inequality in the  nation because  of the                                                               
PFD. ISER  also found that the  PFD creates thousands of  jobs in                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  said inflation proofing is  responsible for                                                               
a large  portion of the current  value of the permanent  fund and                                                               
he  believes  the  corpus  of  the fund  should  continue  to  be                                                               
protected  through inflation  proofing. He  said three  essential                                                               
statutes  create  the  permanent   fund  dividend  program     AS                                                               
37.13.145,  AS 37.13.140,  and AS  43.23.025.  SJR 1  essentially                                                               
places  these statutes  in the  constitution to  constitutionally                                                               
require the  PFD be  paid at its  current formula  and inflation-                                                               
proofing to continue.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He offered to answered questions.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:05:45 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR SHOWER joined the committee.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:07:38 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR COGHILL requested a sectional analysis.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KELLY stated  that the  conflation of  the dividend  and                                                               
subsurface  rights is  an interesting  but incorrect  opinion. He                                                               
maintained that that was never the  intent of the founders of the                                                               
dividend. He reminded  members that the Hammond  plan that capped                                                               
the dividend at $1,250 was intended  to protect the corpus of the                                                               
dividend from raids and it has been successful.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:08:37 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI   said  the   former  statement   has  some                                                               
inaccuracies,  based on  his research  of the  minutes associated                                                               
with the  constitutional creation of  the permanent fund  as well                                                               
as the bill that created the permanent fund dividend program.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
In  the creation  of  the  permanent fund  there  was very  clear                                                               
intent by  the legislature when it  passed CSHJR 39 to  allow for                                                               
the payment  of dividends  to the  people of  Alaska. They  put a                                                               
letter  of intent  in the  record on  March 24,  1976 where  they                                                               
specifically  said  they were  adding  language  to "give  future                                                               
legislatures  the   maximum  flexibility  in  using   the  fund's                                                               
earnings    ranging from adding  to the fund principal  to paying                                                               
out a dividend to resident Alaskans."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
In the minutes  from April 8, 1982,  Representative Terry Gardner                                                               
from Ketchikan  stated that  there was a  need to  distribute oil                                                               
wealth to the  people of Alaska. The Permanent  Fund Dividend was                                                               
directly tied to the responsibility  under the constitution, Art.                                                               
VIII, Sec. II.  The constitutional obligation to  provide for the                                                               
maximum  benefit  for  the  people.  In  the  letter  of  intent,                                                               
Chairman Al Adams  said that the payment of  dividends shall have                                                               
first call  on 50 percent  of the  income of the  permanent fund,                                                               
regardless  of whatever  other uses  the income  is put  to. That                                                               
letter of intent still exists  and is still binding. However, the                                                               
dividend program  does not have  first call anymore  under recent                                                               
decisions  by the  legislature. He  opined that  that is  a clear                                                               
violation of the legislative intent.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:11:31 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR KELLY  clarified that  the point he  was making  was that                                                               
the  founders of  the  dividend  did not  link  it to  subsurface                                                               
rights.  He said  he  was  in the  legislature  at  the time  and                                                               
Senator Wielechowski didn't  have the benefit of  being an Alaska                                                               
resident  at that  time. It  was about  protecting the  permanent                                                               
fund from  a raid because  it gave people a  stake in it.  It had                                                               
nothing to do with subsurface rights.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   WIELECHOWSKI  conceded   that   he  did   not  have   a                                                               
recollection of  what happened  at the  time; he  was nine-years-                                                               
old.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL asked  Senator Wielechowski  to  walk through  the                                                               
sectional.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:12:34 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI delivered  the sectional  analysis for  SJR
21.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Section 1    Establishes the Earnings Reserve Account  as part of                                                               
the constitution  It will be a  separate account in the  fund and                                                               
income from the  fund shall be deposited into the  ERA as soon as                                                               
it is  received. Money  in the  ERA may  be appropriated  only as                                                               
provided in subsection (b) of bill Section 2.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Section  2   -  Adds   new  subsections   to  Art.   IX,  sec.15,                                                               
Constitution of  the State of  Alaska. Subsection (b)  places the                                                               
current  calculations from  AS 17.13.140  into the  constitution.                                                               
Subsection  (c) provides  that  the  legislature shall  inflation                                                               
proof the  fund. Subsection  (d) places  the current  statute for                                                               
calculating the dividend into the constitution                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Section  3  provides transition  language  that  states that  the                                                               
earnings  reserve  account  established in  the  2018  amendments                                                               
replaces  the existing  earnings reserve  account established  by                                                               
law.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Section 4 says  the resolution shall be placed  before the voters                                                               
of Alaska at  the next general election, which  would be November                                                               
2018.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL  asked  him  to  go  through  the  calculation  in                                                               
subsection (d) of bill Section 2.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:15:05 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  explained  that   the  first  sentence  of                                                               
subsection (b)  states that the net  income of the fund  shall be                                                               
computed annually  on the  last day of  the fiscal  year (January                                                               
  th                                                                                                                            
30    each   year)   following  generally   accepted   accounting                                                               
principles. Unrealized  gains or losses are  excluded. The second                                                               
sentence  provides that  the  income  available for  distribution                                                               
equals 21  percent of  the net  income of the  fund for  the last                                                               
five fiscal years.  This follows the current  formula in statute.                                                               
The rationale for  basing the distribution over five  years is to                                                               
smooth increases  and decreases based  on the performance  of the                                                               
stock market. The distribution may  not exceed the balance in the                                                               
earnings  reserve account.  The  third sentence  also tracks  the                                                               
formula in  statute. The people of  Alaska get 50 percent  of the                                                               
income available for  distribution. That is based  on the formula                                                               
of 21 percent over the last five years.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL summarized this would  enshrine the methodology for                                                               
the dividend  in the constitution.  He asked if this  would still                                                               
allow the remainder to be used for government purposes.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  said yes;  it  simply  places the  current                                                               
framework in the constitution. It  prohibits the legislature from                                                               
cutting the dividend and prohibits  the governor from vetoing the                                                               
amount of the dividend.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  asked if  he agrees that  putting the  dividend as                                                               
the first  right diminishes the  amount available  for government                                                               
use.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI agreed that any  use of the earnings reserve                                                               
does diminish future returns. That's the way it is now.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  expressed reservations  about giving  the dividend                                                               
first right.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:20:07 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR   WIELECHOWSKI  reiterated   that  the   resolution  will                                                               
guarantee a  dividend, it will  guarantee inflation  proofing, it                                                               
will  guarantee that  the corpus  of the  permanent fund  remains                                                               
viable,  and  it provides  a  significant  amount that  would  be                                                               
available for government use.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL said  his  major objection  is  that the  dividend                                                               
would impact what's available for government.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:23:43 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR SHOWER questioned whether  enshrining the dividend in the                                                               
constitution  might at  some  point lead  to  a discussion  about                                                               
taxation.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI   said  he  believes  the   permanent  fund                                                               
question must be resolved and that  will force a robust debate on                                                               
how to resolve the budget  situation. Until that discussion takes                                                               
place, the  legislature will take  the easy  way out and  use the                                                               
earnings reserve to  balance the budget, which  will diminish the                                                               
peoples dividends.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR SHOWER asked  if he would also agree  that enshrining the                                                               
dividend  in the  constitution would  limit the  amount of  money                                                               
available for government to spend.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:27:14 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI replied  it will  bring the  question to  a                                                               
head  and elicit  a healthy  debate on  how to  solve the  budget                                                               
problem.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:28:04 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR COGHILL said  he had been reluctant to  hear this proposal,                                                               
but the rules were used correctly  to force a hearing. He said he                                                               
obviously doesn't  agree with  this solution,  but he  does think                                                               
the assessment of  the problem is accurate. He  asked the sponsor                                                               
if he had any concluding comments.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:28:55 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI   said  this   issue  won't  go   away.  An                                                               
unscientific survey  of hundreds  of constituents showed  that 73                                                               
percent support enshrining  the PFD in the  constitution. He said                                                               
he is open to a better  solution, but if the legislature fails to                                                               
act the voters  could make this an action item  when they vote in                                                               
2020 on whether to hold a constitutional convention.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
He  said  it   seems  like  the  committee   should  take  public                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:30:19 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR COGHILL restated that he did not intend to take public                                                                    
testimony today and would hold SJR 1 in committee if there were                                                                 
no further comments.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked if there was a specific date and time                                                                
when public testimony would be taken.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL replied not at this point.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:30:35 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR WIEECHOWSKI moved to report SJR 1 from committee with                                                                   
individual recommendations [and attached fiscal note(s)].                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:30:43 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR COGHILL objected and adjourned the Senate Judiciary                                                                       
Standing Committee meeting at 10:30 a.m.                                                                                        

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 127 - Supporting Document - ADN Op-Ed - 11-01-2017 - Sen Costello - We got it wrong_ Its time to repeal SB 91.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SB 91
SB 127
SB 127 - Supporting Document - KTVA News Report - 02-07-2018 - Man arrested for vehicle theft back in custody weeks later.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SB 127
SB 127 - Supporting Document - Anchorage Police Department - 2017 Anchorage Vehicle Theft Data.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SB 127
SB 127 - Supporting Document - KTVA News Report - 02-21-2018 - APD notes repeat offenders in rising car thefts.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SB 127
SB 127 - Sectional Analysis - Version J.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SB 127
SB 127 - Supporting Document - KTVA News Report - 03-04-2018 - Third party custodians becoming a thing of the past in Anchorage.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SB 127
SB 127 - Supporting Document - KTVA News Report - 03-07-2018 - Suspected repeat car thieves qualify for mandatory release.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SB 127
HB 214 - Letter of Support - Steller Whitmore.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 214
HB 214 - Letter of Support - ANDVSA.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 214
SB 127 - Sponsor Statement.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SB 127
HB 214 - Letter of Support - AWAIC.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 214
HB 214 - Letter of Support - STAR.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 214
HB 214 - Sponsor Statement.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 214
HB 214 - Letter of Support - Rachel Curtiss Steller.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 214
HB 214 - Letter of Support - VFJ.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 214
HB 214 - Supporting Document - ADN Article.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 214
HB 214 - Letter of Support - ANTHC.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 214
SJR 1 - Supporting Document - APRN Article.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SJR 1
HB 214 - Letter of Support - Commissioner Johnson Support.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 214
SJR 1 - Sponsor Statement.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SJR 1
SJR 1 - Supporting Document - Annual Report 2014 PFD Division.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SJR 1
SJR 1 - Supporting Document - Chart Employment Impact in Various Scenarios.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SJR 1
SJR 1 - Supporting Document - Chart PF Historical Returns FY85 - FY15.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SJR 1
SJR 1 - Supporting Document - Fact Sheet How PFDs Reduce Poverty in Alaska.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SJR 1
SJR 1 - Supporting Document - Offical Election Pamphlet 1999.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SJR 1
SJR 1 - Supporting Document - Data Tables PFDs and Poverty in Alaska.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SJR 1
SJR 1 - Supporting Document - Income Inequality by State.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SJR 1
SJR 1 - Supporting Document - ISER Alaska's Economy Historical Trends and Future Outlook.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SJR 1
SJR 1 - Supporting Document - How the Dividend is Calculated.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SJR 1
SJR 1 - Supporting Document - Support Opposition Statements to 1999 Special Election.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SJR 1
SB 127 - Supporting Document - ADN News Report - 10-21-2017 - 3 of 3 - How SB 91 has changed Alaskas criminal justice system.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SB 91
SB 127
SB 127 - Supporting Document - ADN News Report - 10-21-2017 - 2 of 3 - From broad support to bipartisan backpedaling_ Tracing the path of Alaskas criminal justice overhaul.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SB 127
SJR 1 - Supporting Document - Inflation Proofing to the PF FY80 - FY15.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SJR 1
SB 127 - Supporting Document - ADN News Report - 10-21-2017 - 1 of 3 - People in Anchorage are fed up with crime. Did SB 91 make it worse.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SB 91
SB 127
SJR 1 - Supporting Document - The Alaska Survey PFD Poll.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SJR 1
SJR 1 - Supporting Document - PF Fund Financial History and Projections.pdf SJUD 4/7/2018 10:00:00 AM
SJR 1